Robert: Hello and Welcome! My name is Robert Colquhoun. I’m the host of this webinar this evening of an Introduction to Evangelium. It’s a real pleasure to have Father Marcus Holden who I’ll introduce in a moment to tell us about the wonderful course that he has co-authored about Evangelium, about the riches and beauty of the Catholic faith. As always, we’re going to start this event with prayer before hearing more about the Evangelium project.
In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Heavenly Father, we give you thanks and praise for this webcast this evening. We give you thanks and praise for the riches and beauty of the Catholic faith. Help us more to understand and to incorporate your teachings into our lives. We ask this through Christ our Lord. Amen. In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
Welcome this evening. As I said, my name is Robert Colquhoun. I’m hosting this webcast this evening. We are looking at an introduction to Evangelium. An Evangelium course is being offered by Father Marcus Holden, who is a priest of the archdiocese of Southwark. He has been ordained in 2005 after studying at English College. He became parish priest in Ramsgate in 2010 after being in Balham and Royal Tunbridge Wells. He has several degrees, Masters from Oxford and also from the Gregorian University in Rome. Among his many publications are the Evangelium Course, and the Saints of the English Calendar. He is the co-founder of the Evangelium Project and the Confraternity of Catholic Clergy. He regularly works with the media on behalf of the Catholic Church and in production of documentary films on faith and religion. He is also a speaker and lecturer as well. Father Marcus, it is wonderful to have you on the call. How are you today?
Fr. Marcus: Very well. Great to be with you, Robert. I’m quite excited to talk about Evangelium with you.
Robert: It’s wonderful to be on a webcast for the very first time who have generously not only published your work as well, but have supported this new initiative in helping to communicate the beauty and the riches of the Catholic faith over the internet and via telephones and anybody else who is listening in to this recording as well.
So, the Evangelium Course is a multimedia course on the Catholic faith based on the catechism of the Catholic Church. It’s a resource which enables parishes to run courses for adults on the Catholic faith. Father Marcus, could you just give us a brief introduction to first of all, just a background of the course, what it offers and how the course is structured and how people can get involved in studying this course?
Fr. Marcus: Yes, sure. The whole point of Evangelium is that Catholics can know their faith, and those interested in becoming catholic can get a true reliable full power armor of the catholic faith. Thanks to the CTS, Evangelium has been doing that now for several years. I know that it’s used in many parishes across this country.
It came about through really a survey of a lack of these resources for teaching the faith in our country. When I was in seminarian with my good friend, now Father Andrew Pinsent, we were teaching catechism to some youngsters who were preparing for confirmation. We found there were so few resources that covered the full panorama of the faith. I began to develop methods of catechesis using art, religious art, and using modern technology – using PowerPoint and computer technology. This had a great result. It was really working well. We thought we might be able to develop this for adults. When we were ordained we were invited to the CTS to show them what we’d been working on. They were so supportive that we developed it into a full program. It’s had some great results. We have some fantastic feedback about the course.
Robert: The structure of the course, there are four different structures. You are following the catechism, so can you tell us about the structure of how the modules divide up in the course as well?
Fr. Marcus: Yeah, sure. The modules are – there are four parts to the catechism. This is the ancient structure of our faith. It’s the shape of our faith, if you like. Think of four great pillars. One of them is creed – what we believe. One is sacraments – how we celebrate our faith in worship and liturgy. One is morals or ethics – how we live and follow Christ, life in Christ. The fourth pillar is prayer. This isn’t an arbitrary structure. It’s been used in catechisms for centuries. We know that in the early church the fathers of the church would educate those who wanted to be baptized in the Apostle’s creed, in the mysteries as they called them, the sacraments, in the Ten Commandments and the duties of a Christian, and the Lord’s Prayer, the “Our Father.” So that’s the structure that goes right back to the early times. So we wanted to build a course to teach the Catholic faith around those four pillars.
That’s how Evangelium is based. Within those four parts there are many subsections. For instance, there’d be the different parts of the creed in the earlier belief. There’d be the seven sacraments in the sacraments part, as well as worship and liturgy in general. So there’s a macrostructure with these four parts and there’s a microstructure with all the individual component parts. This has helped people to get a sense of the shape of the faith, I think.
One of the dangers of catechesis is that it remains purely at the experiential level. That being perhaps the tendency in modern decades to neglect the content and the shape of the faith. It’s pointless giving content and shape if you don’t have experience as well, but you have to have both. What tended to be lacking was this dimension of doctrine and content and structure so that people got an experience of the faith but without any of the structure, any of the meat of it. A bit like having a body without skeletal structure. So you need both of them.
What we’ve tried to build Evangelium around that structure so it’s solid and lasting, but not lacking in opportunities for experience too. So people will be invited during the Evangelium course to certain prayer, there are moments of prayer built into it. There are moments when the scripture is opened up. There are opportunities for further activities and reading. When Evangelium is taught well by a confident catechist and not just read out slide by slide, then the catechist himself or herself will bring out personal experience and have a certain interaction with the group or the individual.
Robert: You mentioned the structure there as well, but also slightly earlier the beautiful religious art that you have in the course. That is a focus for each lesson. Just tell us about some of the pieces of art that you chose to be visual demonstration of the faith in the course, and what they demonstrate, and how they can bring the course to life.
Fr. Marcus: They really do bring the course to life. Art is a tremendous tool for Catholics today. We have this vast and wonderful tradition of Catholic art going right back to the catacombs when Christians were still persecuted. As soon as Christianity was free to manifest itself, it did so with Christian art. So we have this world of virtually 2000 years to draw from in teaching our faith. The modern technology allows us to project these masterpieces of Christian art onto a wall or screen for people to see in all their beauty and wonder. But it’s not just that they’re beautiful pictures, or pictures that encourage us to pray, as many of these holy images do, but these images also teach. They’re filled with symbolism and meaning. When that is brought out it helps people to understand the sometimes difficult concepts of faith, which if you just speak about them they can be quite dense and hard to grasp. So these images are a real tool for transmitting both the shape of the faith, the beauty of the faith, but also the very content of it. We’ve found that it’s opened up people’s minds to the great truths of our faith.
In the past people said the medieval and ages before us had images because they couldn’t read. They were the bibles of the poor. I think that’s a false understanding of human nature. We are also made for the visible. We can’t even think of anything in our own minds without forming an image of it. The philosophers called it a phantasm. So we’re made for image. The Catholic faith is a faith packed with imagery. The modern world is a world of image. So it’s not something we should be shy of. It’s something that could work in our favor. People are used to learning with images. They are used to the television screen or the internet. These are highly visual means of communication. Some of Evangelium is trying to tap into that with this Christian art.
A lot of the art we’ve chosen to use, you can use all sorts of art for transmitting the faith. It tends to be that art of the – from the 13th, 14th Century onward. So from Giotto onwards where art takes on a certain realism and the richness of the symbolic world is very much present in those images. We go right through to some modern images like the one of Holman Hunt of Christ knocking on the door of the soul. We major to a certain extent with the Renaissance from Fr angelico who really is putting Thomas Aquinas’ theology into art, to people like Michelangelo and Rafael. These images are often very famous, but people don’t always recognize the deep theology that’s written into them that previous ages would have noticed quite easily. So decoding some of these images using computer technology and PowerPoint really can give a sense of discovery and a real learning of a new tradition.
Robert: Which is your favorite religious image that you’ve chosen for the course, and how does that present the Catholic faith in all its fullness and beauty?
Fr. Marcus: That’s a difficult question. There’s so many beautiful images. I think my favorite is Frangelico’s Annunciation that we use to teach the incarnation, the module on God becoming man, the incarnation of Christ. I think that image is absolutely tremendous. It’s probably my favorite. There are a few competitors for it. Frangelico was a 15th Century painter. He wanted to transmit the faith. He is Blessed Frangelico. He is Patron Saint of artists. So you’re seeing something very holy and very pure with him. The theology is primary. He’s not just showing off with his artistic capabilities, which are tremendous, but he’s really trying to transmit the beauty of holiness and the holiness of beauty and the image of the enunciation, of the incarnation he presents to us which we use in Evangelium.
You can see the angel appearing to the Blessed Virgin Mary and asking whether she will be the mother of the son of God. Around the picture there is a desert which reminds us of the form that is being turned around, Adam and Eve being cast out of the Garden of Eden, the state before man fell by an angel. This is being reversed before our eyes with the angel asking Mary, a new Eve, to say yes to the new Adam who will be redeemer. The desert is contrasted in the picture with a garden of the incarnation, flowering anew. It’s symbolism of new life, new creation, new beginning.
A lot of people know of this concept through the writings of C.S. Lewis, the Narnia stories which is a bit of an allegory for Christian teaching. The story The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, when Aslan, who is like a figure of Christ, appears, the icy winter in that story begins to give way to spring. Frangelico got there 500 years before C.S. Lewis in this incarnation. On a podcast we can’t see it, but I hope those who don’t know have a chance to look it up and maybe see it in the Evangelium books.
Robert: Thank you so much, Father Marcus. If you’re just joining us, we’re talking about the Introduction to Evangelium, which is a wonderful course developed by Father Marcus Holden, who is a co-author of the course hoping to bring teaching about the Catholic faith. It brings a rich visual experience to the faith by ways of contemporary multimedia technology and over 100 of the greatest works of art in Christian history.
Father Marcus, that was a very hard question to choose the most favorite painting that you’ve chosen for your course. But I’ve got another hard question. Suppose that I am a catechist and I’m keen to revamp some of the resources and to start using Evangelium in a local parish. We’ve got a participants book and there’s also a presenters guide as well. What are some of the keys to how to really bring this course to life? If you’re a catechist in a local parish, what are some of the ways that you can help just make the most use out of the course and to really present it in the best way possible?
Fr. Marcus: Yes, I think that’s a very helpful question, very practical question. Evangelium I have to say for all my enthusiasm about it, isn’t the only tool that can be used for catechesis. Some people are always looking for the one-stop solution to everything. We’ve never said that about Evangelium. What we do say is it’s a tool that’s really useful because it’s simple to use. Sometimes you buy these catechol courses from America or other places and you get a box through the door delivered by courier. You think, how am I going to translate this to people?
The beauty of Evangelium is you just get a CD-ROM which can be put in any computer or DVD and just play it. You can also just get one book, which is 50 pages long, which is your presenter’s guide. 25 sessions of Evangelium which take you through the four parts of the catechism. Each session, which is advised to be about an hour, or just over, has just two pages to prepare you for it. It’s not onerous. It’s sort of plug and play. All the best things are simple and intuitive. We’ve tried to do that with Evangelium. Each participant has a guide of their own which they can use. That participant’s guide has all the key content that will be shared on the slides. It has the art work. That is so easy for them to use as well.
I think a few practical things that can help in using it, apart from the simplicity of Evangelium, is that to advertise sessions beforehand well if you’re running it in a parish. It’s important to give people maybe some pictures of the material because the pages of the participant’s guide are very beautiful. The wording is very concise and respectful. It’s not verbose or difficult. Host perhaps a demonstration evening before launching. Invite people in. I think use some of the techniques of our Christian brothers and sisters who run Alpha courses. They often have a meal beforehand. You can invite people for refreshments. That all can work with Evangelium, too.
You don’t also have to start necessarily a 25 week mammoth course which is the full panorama of the faith. You might just start off with a short course on the creed, or a course on prayer for Lent which would give you 5 sessions. That would give people a toe-step.
I think it’s important for the catechist to read through the course book before presenting it, and to perhaps go through some of the references as well. The best teachers of Evangelium are those who bring their own experience to it, who don’t simply read out slides, but add something from their own life as well, some examples, and make it interactive. It’s always sensible to go through the slides beforehand so there are no surprises for oneself. What’s really helpful too is common objections or questions that will come up. These have been anticipated in the presenter’s guide. Difficult questions about faith or science, about moral questions. These things may arise. There are some helpful answers in there. These are good moments of interaction, also opportunities to make the course interactive with a group.
There are a variety of activities that could be chosen within the session and for follow-up. I think those should be chosen carefully and seriously. I think above all to major on the artwork, to spend plenty of time on the art, because this is one of the great strengths of Evangelium. You’ve got a masterpiece of art on a big screen in front of you and you can ask people what they see and what does that mean and go into some detail with it.
Robert: You’ve mentioned how the course can be flexible and adaptable to the needs of the parish, having a short or a long course, or having evening courses. Of course the principle use is mostly for RCA refresher courses for adults who would be the primary use. What other uses would Evangelium, for example, school students or youth catechisms? What other uses could the course be used for?
Fr. Marcus: Because Evangelium is a very simple, it can – with a school’s catechist it could be used for a very well educated theologically educated group, and also for people who have very little education or are quite young, it could be raised up or brought down in terms of its intellectual level. That depends on the catechists. Often in the course just the basic information is given. I know it’s being used principally for RCIA, and teaching the faith, and for adult refresher courses. It was used as the course of choice for all those who came over with the ordinariate of our Lady of Welsingham when they received into full communion with the Catholic Church.
It has been used for confirmation at times, particularly if there is an older group for confirmation rather than a younger group. I think probably from the age of 15 up, with an intelligent group it can be used. There’s many six forms and six form colleges it’s been used in part, adapted for use. It can be used too for marriage preparation and even self-instruction to a certain extent. Often a priest will only have one person who wants to be received into the Catholic Church and are given [inaudible] small parish, so sometimes he will say work through this as a form of self-instruction with the books. It’s not the way it’s designed, but it can be used that way, and I know it has with some success.
Robert: There’s a distinction of course between the Evangelium course and the wider Evangelium Project. You’ve done conferences over the summer as well. Can you tell us the difference first of all between the course and the wider project per-say, tell us some of the other projects or other parts of Evangelium.
Fr. Marcus: Yeah, sure. The first thing was the course. As I mentioned earlier in its history, it came out of a desire to just share the faith, to catechize, to give people a knowledge of the faith reliability. It was taken on by the CTS and it was proven to be very, very popular. So the question that arose next was what else can we do? How else can we help in this regard? So other publications followed. The name of Evangelium now is for the entire project of all the things that have been produced under that banner, and also for all the teaching activities that go on around it.
So for instance, we have a series of little booklets to help people in catechesis, one called Credo, which is a pocket sized introduction to the Catholic faith based on Evangelium. Then a book called Apologia, which is a Greek word for giving a defense of the faith. It tackles those most difficult questions that people ask of Catholics, giving reason for the hope that is in us, as 1 Peter says in Scripture. Then a book called Lumen, which was really a response to the objection that the Catholic faith was not a positive thing for civilization and had contributed little to the world. Lumen with 25 different areas shows how the Catholic faith basically built western civilization and preserved all that was good from Rome and Greece and built upon that in a vast number of areas.
We’ve also brought out more recently a second course which is called the Why Course. A lot of people were saying about Evangelium, it’s great for catechesis, but not so good for those who are first inquiring, first stage of evangelization or for those who need just a little bit of a reintroduction to the catholic faith, often parents of first communion children, or confirmation candidates who really need just a little bit of re-evangelization. So the Why Course was created, which is three sessions only. It covers those big questions, “Why God? Why Christ? Why the Church?” Three key steps. It’s to be run with three short DVDs with discussion by a catechist. That’s been out just over a year and has been received very well.
The other Evangelium Project isn’t just publications and courses though. It includes now conferences and opportunities for teaching the faith. There’s a certain methodology of Evangelium. While it’s not a movement as such, you don’t join it. There’s not a charism or spirituality, there’s a project with a sort of methodology and a certain mission. Evangelium has run seven youth conferences over the last few years. About 200 young people come together and learn all about their faith so they can become more effective witnesses in the modern world knowing their faith well and being equipped to share it in their various places and apostolates. We’ve also been trying to help schools because catechesis also is for the Catholic schools. Recently we’ve been producing a series of posters with Catholic heroes and their contribution to society that can be put up in classrooms and all the walls of schools which has been take up very well. Again, published by the CTS.
Robert: That’s really exciting to hear how the course has developed into a much wider project with conferences, booklets, posters and further opportunities for catechesis and evangelization. I very much hope that continues for the future as well. I’m a convert myself. I became a Catholic ten years ago. It was really through understanding my faith and getting to know my faith at an early stage was a huge important in my faith journey. Why did you think, you mention that you were looking around and there wasn’t too many courses in this field. Why do you think catechesis is so important, first of all for Catholics to know their faith, but also for evangelization as well?
Fr. Marcus: Yes. I think it’s important because as St. Paul says, faith comes through hearing. He said, “How will they believe if you do not ever preach.” There’s a content to the faith that will awaken faith really in the heart. There’s often been a mistake in the understanding of this which when you call technically eminentism. It’s a fancy word which really is to say that the faith is discovered from within. That’s never been the Christian teaching. Faith comes as a gift. It comes from outside. There is something radically new in Christ and the teaching that he brings. It does bring us to life within, but it’s something that’s given. When the Lord calls us to love him not just with our hearts, but all our minds. It’s the mind that informs the heart correctly.
So to know our faith well, is part of loving God with all our minds. He’s given us this supreme gift of the intellect, which is the faculty that makes us most like Him. He’s given us also the truths of faith and the opportunity to know, even though it’s imperfect in this life, and even though the reality of the vision of Him is so utterly beyond what we can know, he has given us the truth of faith. We could also say we cannot love what we do not know. We have to know that God is Trinity – Father, Son, Holy Spirit. We have to know that Jesus Christ has come, is true God and true man. Once we know that, all other things connect to it, then we can begin to love that faith.
Robert: In terms of your ideas on evangelization for this country, I think we both see a passionate new revival in the Catholic faith. What do you think is some of the most effective ways of evangelization in Britain? What have you been really inspired seeing in your ministry as a priest?
Fr. Marcus: I see great hope for evangelization. Our generation, we weren’t supposed to happen. The faith was supposed to die out. All the sociologists were suggesting the Christian faith was waning and it had no part in the modern world. Yet, here we are. I keep seeing young people inspired in great faith and a hunger to know, a hunger to learn, a hunger to be informed and a desire to share that faith. It’s a difficult time to be a Christian because there are great challenges.
There’s also this revival in the Church that gives me a sense in the coming decades, especially here in our own country, the church itself is going to be very strong. It might be smaller, and there may be great challenges outside, but the church will be strong within. I’m encouraged by so many of the new movements around and so many of the priests coming through the seminary that I keep meeting in our seminaries, the young sisters with, are filled with faith. In fact, religious vocations are going up in this country against all the odds. It’s quite tremendous.
Robert: Of course the catechism of the Catholic Church came out in 1992. The Evangelium Course follows that structure of creed, sacraments, morals and prayer. Do you think through experience is one way that evangelization might be possible for our country through personal experience? What way can a course like this mix with the experience of the participant in a way that deepens their prayer and also their faith life as well?
Fr. Marcus: Yes, the catechism was a great gift in 1992. There was a great crisis of faith. A lot of people said in the ‘80s you could never have a catechism again because everyone is disagreeing about what they believed. But there were those who had faith who knew that wasn’t true and there was a constant teaching. That’s one of the reasons we have a church where we can have a certainty in doctrine through history and across the world. St. John Paul II gave us this great gift of the catechism in 1992 which really studied the ship of the church, the ark of Peter if you like in doctrine.
But doctrine itself isn’t sufficient. You can know your theology inside out. You can know all the ethical teachings of the church. You could recite the catechism and still not have a living faith. So people often juxtapose or put a dichotomy between experiential and the doctrinal as if you can do that. But the Catholic way is to always bring them together. People need to be evangelizing. They need to find a personal relationship with God. You can’t be a disciple of God without knowing the Master, knowing Jesus Christ himself. Once you begin to follow him, however you get to that point, inevitably you want to know more about him, and you want to know truth about him, and you want to know the implications of that and how to relate to him and how to worship him. That’s what the doctrine is about.
So in Catholicism it really is a both and. I think we’re realizing that more and more if in the past we erred perhaps on the side of just knowledge and recitation and memory work in terms of the doctrines of the faith. In more recent times we’ve erred solely on the experiential. I think the future is to marry those two things properly. That’s one of the works of Evangelium and other groups that are doing this authentic catechesis.
Robert: It must have really been a work of love to put this course together. How many rewrites did it take to really craft the words to bring corrections, cross out all the mistakes? You must have rewritten the course many, many times. How many times did it take to get to the perfect final version?
Fr. Marcus: It took a few years to develop and a lot of sweat and blood. They say a good read is a very hard write, and I can say that that is true of Evangelium. Every word has been weighed carefully. Because it is concise, it is harder to write. It’s easy to write many, many sentences of a theme. But to give a definition which is nothing more, nothing less than is needed to say what a thing is, is a great challenge. We worked extremely hard on that process. But it reads easy now. It looks simple. People think, why hasn’t this been done before because it looks so simple. But it does take a lot to write simply. I think that we were very blessed to have many helpers around Evangelium. You said that I was a co-author of this with Father Andrew Pinsent, and it’s true, but there were many other people who were involved in that sifting process, that writing process and doctrinal checking in coming up with new ways to say things. So we’re grateful to have a vast army of people who did help us along the way. They’re sort of listed on the front inside page of the Evangelium books.
Robert: It’s one of the great privileges of a course and the wider project of Evangelium. We’ve got the teaching of the church, and it’s presenting it in a way that it’s accessible, livening, colorful, beautiful and attractive to the lay person or to the recipient of the course. I think that’s a tremendous privilege to be able to communicate the truth of the catholic faith in a way that brings the faith to life. I think that’s the most essential part of this age, particularly the communication age that we’re living. To be able to communicate our faith to the wider secular world as well. In terms of was there anything that perhaps you wanted to add into the course that you weren’t able to, or did it really cover the essential teaching? Was there anything that you would have like to have included in the course?
Fr. Marcus: Yes, there are always things we could’ve included. We actually had to cut certain things because of space. That’s a good process, just as a film maker would have to sacrifice scenes and images they really like, so we had to do with Evangelium. We were forced with a certain size we were aiming for to make it simple and concise and easy to use. I think we do cover the panorama of the faith, the basic overview which we were setting out to do. If I could say one thing I would like to have added a dimension to in Evangelium, would be the use of other multimedia techniques. I think the use of video and the use also of music and sound, that is something that could be built in in the future, this is becoming easier and easier to do. This may be a dimensionality of Evangelium that we’re going to exploit soon that wouldn’t take away from the content but add just as the artistic visual images add to it.
I think we’d also like to present Evangelium on a DVD so it could be used not just with a catechist with PowerPoint and a computer, but also put in with a catechist live on the screen. The best way to do Evangelium is with a catechist who is present, because it’s more interactive that way, it’s more human and it can address the level of the different groups that the catechist presents to. But it would be useful to produce a ready-made package that could be used by just plugging it into a DVD. That would be another outlet to help with catechesis.
As you said in your comment a moment ago, it’s a joy to work with these new technologies to bring the faith forward. Evangelium is straightforwardly the faith of the church. There’s no specific theology opinions, it’s just straight Catholicism. It’s orthodox straight Catholicism. It’s not modernist, but it uses all the modern means that are at our disposal. You don’t have to use the old media to present the ancient faith. You can use the new media for that. We are very much supportive of the developments in the use of social media for the spread of the faith.
Robert: So we have a series of questions that some of the people listening in to have at that moment. First of all we have Claire who asks, “Can you give some examples of feedback you’ve received from those who’ve run and attended the course?”
Fr. Marcus: Yes. We’ve had lots of feedback over the years that Evangelium has worked in the parish, been helpful at different levels. We had a chaplain for the ministry in Afghanistan who was using it for Catholics out there. It’s interesting that the military forces are often very interested in theological discussions and meetings and use of it’s been a superb tool for them. I know a particular sixth form teacher said it transformed the sixth form group that he was leading in teaching the catholic faith. It gave them a real sense of the truth of faith and the coherence of faith, despite what they’d been told about religion not being rational which is the line we hear today. We get a lot of feedback thanks to the CTS, and also areas for improvements as well. Sometimes people have pointed things out, so we have made slight changes over the last few years in the second edition of Evangelium that tweaked certain things. So the feedback is always very helpful.
Robert: Now is the time to ask the question, if you are interested in asking a question. There is a Q&A box on the website. Just submit your question for the event there and click the button “Submit.” We also have a question from Anna who asks, “Are there any recommendations of sources given in the workbook as to where to obtain access of the different art images, etc. that could help support teaching the course?”
Fr. Marcus: Yes, there’s a list in the reference section of where you can get the art from. Most of the art if you just type in the title of it and the artist into a search bar you’ll get it. Most of the art is accessible through mere searches. It’s not hard to find. You could do a bit of research around it as well that way and about, you could also, if you want to go down the artistic line and make that your major focus when you are using Evangelium, for instance, you could type in Friar Angelico and you’d get a lot of information about him that could be quite useful in the session as well if you want to major on the artist and what he’s doing with the religious image.
Robert: Brilliant. Well, thank you so much, Father. It’s been a real privilege speaking to you today. For those of you who are interested in purchasing the Evangelium Course, we’ve got a link on our website saying “Get Product Info.” It’s also possible if you go along to the CTS website which is found at www.CTSBooks.org there’s also the opportunity to purchase many of the other Evangelium courses and also the smaller booklets that Father Marcus mentioned – Credo, and Lumen as well. There’s a participant’s book and there is also a DVD as well to purchase from the CTS website.
We’ve come to the end of our presentation now. Just to say thank you so much for your time. Father Marcus, it’s been a real privilege speaking to you today. It’s been wonderful to hear more about this wonderful course that you’ve created. A real work of art and work of love that you’ve created over the last few years. It’s so exciting to hear how this project is developing well beyond the course to the conferences, to the booklets, to the further evangelization that you’ve created. I really hope that is a path that may long continue and that this project that you have may blossom for the future. Would you like to just close us with a prayer before we finish the recording?
Fr. Marcus: Yes, certainly. Thanks very much. Come Holy Spirit, fill the hearts of your faithful and kindle in them the fire of your love. Send forth your spirit and it should be created, and you shall renew the face of the earth. Amen.
Robert: Amen. Thank you so much for listening everybody. I’m going to stop the recording now. Thank you so much once again, Father Marcus. Goodbye.
Fr. Marcus: Thanks very much.